Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion

Subject: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:12 pm

This thread is for Discussion, Reviews and other what-not concerning the Novels of the Forgotten Realms Setting. It seems to be something lacking in most other places. They ban these sorts of posts on WotC forums and many others because they often get inflammatory as people can get attached to favorite characters that others may find annoying, etc. I think we as a whole are better than that and can discuss the merits (or inherent lack thereof) of a novel without resorting to a game of Trolls and Flames. Please don't prove me wrong.

EDIT by Kilsek: Made a sticky, remember flame wars may get you banned!

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All right, my first post here will be intended to save some folks a few hours of there lives. I just finished Master of Chains by Jess LeBow. While remaining a fast paced read, it was just too predictable. I was able to see nearly all of the plot twists coming a mile away and accurately predict the end after about 60 pages. The only things that kept me reading it was the fast pace of the book itself and my sincere hope that there would be something in it that was out of left field and just totally threw me. Didn't happen. I'd like my 4 hours back please.

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I'll start it with some of my favorite (and most obvious).

Dark Elf Series. What really needs to be said? It's reached iconic level and at this point, you probably know it, whether negatively or positively.

Liriel Baenre Series, Starlight and Shadows. These books are absolutely amazing. Elaine Cunningham remains amazing. Follows the adoptive daughter of Gromph Baenre, about a trilogy strong. I don't want to get too into these books, as I don't know what the spoiler policies are in this thread, and I don't want to wreck it for anyone. However, I may edit with a lengthier opinion later.

Depths of Madness, Eric De ?- a *great* read. All the way up until the end. Which, IMO, ended weakly. I hate books like this. It started so strong and stayed so interesting for so long. All of a sudden it was like a drop off a cliff, with the ending being a painful splat at the bottom. Follows twilight, of the Shadowdancer PrC. Horribly interesting to read about non-ranger/fighter classes in a book that was horribly interesting. I use the word horribly because it's very appropriate....

Elfshadow series, Songs and Swords series. Elaine Cunningham. I fell in love with this series a few chapters in, and wasn't let down for anything. Her writing style is so flowing, it's almost like reading poetry. Like bardic music, maybe Very Happy

I couldn't put this book down. Her character was a strong female lead, which is terribly interesting someone could do that in and of itself. I read all the way up to the 4th book, and then lost it halfway through. It was horribly hard, but I moved on, and I'd really like to pick the series up again. Mixing in comedy right where it's needed, the swordplay was brilliantly described and equal parts cinematic and accurate (as far as my limited knowlege goes). Pick this up if you haven't yet.

Unclean- Somebody review this. I'm so tempted to pick it up, it looks like the cover of a Palahniuk book, rather than a FR book Very Happy

Elminster series- haven't read much, didn't really like it. I don't like the first parts, so I could never get into this series... I may pick it back up, as I tried reading it when I was younger and my attention span worse.

Summoning, Return of the Archwizards book 1- Great book. Ended as strong as it started. I haven't picked up book 2 yet, because I was working my way through the thousand orcs series, which I recently finished, so I'm about to dive into it. But it deals with the phaerimm, features cameos by some HUGE FR icons, that were really well written. Also, I believe the main character is an Elven Tombseeker? I'm not sure the PrC right now, but I'll look it up, very cool class. Equal parts rogue/caster, IIRC. Maybe rogue/fighter. Aaaaanyways, I read this one very far, and really dug the fact that it wasn't as defined as the salvatore series or the cunningham books. It was horribly chaotic, and it felt like there were never any down time. Run here, run there, run back, etc. I loved it.

ADDITION: Swords of the Eveningstar? I believe that was the title. Ed Greenwood, IIRC. Great book, got a bit long in a couple places, but it picked right back up. Very interesting, and when the 2nd book hits paperback, I'll expect to pick that up so I can properly review the series Very Happy

That's what I can remember for now. I'll expand, change, etc. daily, so don't start quoting me 'till I'm done Very Happy

Just wanted to get a bit started on what I could remember.

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Very cool this rocks!

The Pool Trilogy - what got me into D&D the second time. Pool Radiance just rocks as a book and as a game\adventure.

The Dark Elf Series - as stated by Zero is a must, very great reading and when Drizzt wasn't so over whelming not bashing Drizzt as I have read almost all the books.

The Finder Stone Trilogy - the stories of the dead god Moander and the poor swordwoman Alias of Westgate. Great read!!! Plus it also expalins how Finder Wyvernspur becomes a god.

Return of the Archwizards - another great read, this explains more on the return of the mages from Netheril and the coming of the Shades and the City of Shade. The phaerimm just rule (we need them as a mini). It can be a confussing read but very important read for the Realms. Also one word for you... Sharn!

Elfshadow series, Songs and Swords series - this series is awesome and I love the 2 characters a bard and a half moon elf with a moonblade what more do you need. Oh ya mostly based in Waterdeep if I recall.

Return of the Spider Queen - this is a amazing series. I highly recommend this set of 6 books. It explains a lot more on the drow society in the realms and the Houses. Great trips into the Abyss and battles with of the drow gods. I highly recommend theses books. I couldn't put them down and read them like in 3 months.

The Elminister Series - once again I have to agree with Zero they can be very dry and boring. They are ok reads but not high on excitement. The books become more of a name dropper type thing. Oh look there is so and so... Elminister in Hell was one of the better ones.

The Last Mythal Series - just finished this not long ago. Not a bad series as it explains the return of the elves from Evermeet to the Realms. Also it explains the rise of the fey'ri daemonfey from the Nameless dungeon back to the Realms. I like the series alot. There are alot of demons and devils in te series.

The Avatar Series - this is the ultimate must read for Realms Fans. This 3 book set is amazing and it explains the Times of Trouble and the rise and fall of many gods. Must read this!!! I miss Bhaal.... Sad

The Rogue Dragons - this series was ok, it started off great but then kind of felt rushed. This is about the return of the Rage which orginally is what caused the fall of power of the dragons in the beginning of time. This explains abit about how the dragons lost their power to the elves and also it gets exciting when good dragons can not control themselves which in the Rage!

The Wizard Series - Blackstaff was just a terrible book it was boring and a name dropper. The only cool thing about the book was the lich Frostburn and the use of high magic and all the rituals to it can be very dry.
Second book Bloodwalk is a great book that looks into the ways of the oracles that worship Savras and the evil of the ex arch devil now demigod Gargauth. The main villian Morghan has some cool powers like traveling through one person to another through the blood stream. Great stuff.
Third book Darkvision is a novel about a mage from the Deep Imaskar. Looking for secrets of the past using a keystone and the Mucklestones. Where they uncover the legend of darker past of the Imaskari. Great book.

This is also just a start for me also as my books are packed as I'm moving and I need to see the cover to remember if they were great. Also didn't want to ruin the books but give you an idea of the books are important to realmlore. I'm not a perfect realmlore addict like some on WOTC but it's just to give u a idea on it.

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:21 am

I have been lucky with the novels I have read.

The Pool Trilogy: Awesome as!
Return of the Archwizards: Great reading from beginning to end
Return of the Spider Queen: Simply the best if not number 2
The Dark Elf Series: The shitzot!

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:11 am

You guys may like to know that Return of the Spider Queen continues. I just finished The Lady Penitent by Lisa Smedman. It introduces some new folks into the mix ans continues with the happenings of Hallistra Melarn and her wizard brother Qarland. A very good book that I just couldn't put down. Qarland reminded me a little of Phauraun who was one of my favorite characters in the Spider Queen series, so I liked him from the get go. Zipped through it in 3-4 hours tops. Highly recommended!!

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:18 pm

Thanks Wraithborne I own that book but haven't had time to dive into it. I always have 15 books in waiting to be read and source books out the ying yang that i haven't read. I'm reading the old Harpers Shadowmage books right now.

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:11 am

I just finished The Year of Rogue Dragons Trilogy (nice to have a job where I can read at work :) )and I really enjoyed the series. Richard Lee Byers set a fast pace from the get go and never relentes. Anyone that can make a Faerie Dragon seem like a formidable opponent gets an automatic thumbs up. A nice insight into Sammaster's mind and the Cult of the Dragon, as well as some interesting (pre?) history of the Realms.

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:06 am

Another week of work another book down. Next up on the block is Road of the Patriarch, the latest from Salvatore. A pretty decent read, that kept my attention throughout, but there were some annoying parts....C'mon dude, I know Drizzt is your bread and butter, but in a book that isn't about him and doesn't concern him in the least, I could've done without his Holier-Than-Thou random babblings interjected several times through the book.

Also wish the revelations into Artemis' past were a little less stereotypical, but I don't wanna ruin anything for those who haven't read it. I love the way he otherwise writes Artemis though, especially in his interactions with the Hoi Palloi of Damara.

In digging through my closet, I found the Finders Stone trilogy, which sadly I've never read. I figured I'd remedy that and took the first book to work and found a receipt in it from 1990!!!

Subject: Re: Forgotten Realms Novel Discussion Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:40 pm

Just finished the Veiled Dragon and have to say over all didn't really care for the novel. It has a nice little insight to the Shou in East but over all thought the book was just too dry just not enough of a s storyline to keep me in it. Also the black dracolich Cypress seemed very weak for what he was suppose to be. The could of did so much more with the Cult of the Dragon in the novel. Next book... not sure yet have to see my bookshelf.